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    Re: Andrew Palko named new Lee football coach

    I don't think I've seen that, especially with having not even stepped foot into yet, but most of us thought (not so sure myself now after reading more and thinking some things over) that he would've been a good asset to the program. He came on and gave some info about himself, which we had asked about.

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    Re: Andrew Palko named new Lee football coach

    A website is no place to promote yourself for a job. People at the other board were absolutely appalled he was not given the job after all the stuff he posted about his modular offense. Anyone can spew crap about how great they are. I just did not feel that anyone on there had seen him coach, but were taking him at his word. I just wondered what the difference was when I saw someone question that over here. I would not include you as one of those fawning over him but there were some. I know you post over on some of the EKY boards. Does he not remind you Mt. Warrios who was always on one of those boards tooting his own horn after taking a job at Estil Co. last year only to resign two or three weeks later. MT. Warrior talked himself up like he was the second coming. People on that site bought right in hook line and sinker when he applied for the M'boro job.

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    Re: Andrew Palko named new Lee football coach

    Quote Originally Posted by yogibear View Post
    Funny you should say that about Vaugh because people on the CMD board are acting like he is some coaching guru. I know one thing: I have never seen someone campaigne for a job on the internet and land it.
    I don't know that he campaigned on the Internet for anything. Somebody posted something about him, he posted to clear somethings up, and then people started asking him questions.

    Like you, I am a skeptic at times. I am always skeptical of people that get labeled as a "coach" simply because they have previously held a coaching job. The guy Lee hired has a record of 100-121. Not real impressive. Would you go to a doctor who was only successful at surgery 45% of the time? Heck, he might have been a "doctor" for 20 years, but I sure wouldn't go to him.

    I would tend to gravitate towards the younger guy, the one with the "fresh" experience who has seen football played in more than one way. Read about your new coach. His claim to fame seems to be his penchant for running trick plays. That is a weak football team's answer to try and win games.

    Yes, football coaching jobs are political appointments. Football generates lots of revenue, even at the HS level. Coaches are expected to produce and keep the stands full. Did he tell the boosters why he resigned as coach? He sure wouldn't tell the Washington Post, other than to say he just felt it was time.

    I wish him all the luck in the world. It is no skin off my neck regardless of who Lee hires. I just think somebody would wake up so you don't have to hire another coach next year.

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    Re: Andrew Palko named new Lee football coach

    I agree 100,000 percent with about all of what you have said. I just feel like an internet message board is not a place to discuss a job or the hiring process of that job if you are involved in it. That is all I am saying. I really do feel like the guy was eating up all the attention and love he was getting over there and there was just a funny feel about all that to me.

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    Re: Andrew Palko named new Lee football coach

    And Vaughn's record was?? And same for the others??? As mentioned on the CMD forum, don't know much about the football up there, the conference they are in, or much about Chopticon's teams over those years. I didn't see any candidate that was listed having an "impressive" record, unless I missed it. May not be impressive but not terrible and doesn't say much about what type of coach he could be for Lee. Sanders came in and had things going in the right direction, his wasn't either. After really thinking it over, I think was a good choice, Lee doesn't need another startup coach...they keep going back to that path and its burnt them every time. There were plenty of things that appeared good, but still yet unproven. What exactly said the others would mean Lee wouldn't have to make another hire next year? Didn't think that would be the case last year, did they not get a young coach then? Sure did...and the result was another early exit.

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    Re: Andrew Palko named new Lee football coach

    Beamerball, I'm not saying that Palko is a bad choice for Lee, nor am I saying he is a bad coach. All I'm saying is that too many people see "experience" as being a panacea for all things bad, when the reality of it is that "experience" is sometimes used to describe a situation where "longevity" would have been the better word.

    Correct me if I am wrong because this is based SOLELY on what I have read on this and other boards, but last year's coach didn't leave willingly. He aparently failed to complete some type of educational requirement and was let go. If that IS the case, then the decision to hire him in the first place was a poor one. Why take that kind of chance when you have qualified applicants?

    Palko may come to Lee, and in a couple of years be cleaning the clocks of everyone in the CMD. Or, if he lives up to the history of his past twenty years, he will be a mediocre coach who lives right on the line of the .500 season.

    I think EVERYONE would agree that the schools all across the CMD have relatively equal talent for the most part. The differences in winning and losing at sports may, during some years, be an issue of talent alone, but for the most part, over the long haul, it is coaching ability. Look at GC with football and volleyball. Does GC just happen to be the only school in the CMD that can produce good volleyball athletes?

    As someone just said on another board, "Good coaches win ballgames regardless of talent." School systems and state leagues do their best to insure equality of play by classifying schools according to enrollments.

    In looking at any coach's record I realize you have to take things other than won-loss records into account. Here we aren't talking about three or four years, where "builidng" a program might be an excuse, or even ten years where there were some lean years at first and then the program began winning. Instead, we are talking about TWENTY years of .500 seasons. So, there is a possibility that Lee has hired a coach with a winning heart, mind and program that just didn't have resources at his previous school. There is also the probability that they have hired a coach that wasn't very successful at his last school, and probably won't be at this one either.

    Ultimately it matters not to me. I was just throwing some things out there for discussion. I wish Coach Palko and the Generals the best of luck. I like seeing close football games, and want all the CMD schools to develop topnotch programs. It is fun to win, but it is even more fun to show up on a Friday night not knowing who is going to win, and when you do win come away with a sense of accomplishment.

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    Re: Andrew Palko named new Lee football coach

    I don't think it should be just about experience alone either. I think many wanted to see more than just that, I guess I was one of the first ones to bring that up but I didn't just mean that alone when I said it. Who's better qualified from the list? Who's the better choice? Vaughn has a lot of plans it seems and played in Europe and the Arena football league, seems to have good faith and apparently an aggressive nature, and that just from only what he's thrown out there, but even so how would that translate into coaching at Lee High, that's a big unknown. The others are pretty much in the same boat as Coomer and others were, all past Lee football players with some college playing experience, some assistant coaching, and no head coaching experience (except for Coomer's one year). I know I said Lee could use one who's got the "experience", if this is just all its about, but again that didn't mean just a long tenure, I just kind of grouped it into that one word (I'm lazy, okay, lol). We'd certainly like to see some big name, state ring bearing, well proven, legendary coach, waltz right on in...but they've got to apply first, haha. Ah, who knows, that .500 ball in Maryland could be much better here, we'll see I guess.

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    Re: Andrew Palko named new Lee football coach

    As the old saying goes, if you never risk anything, you never gain anything. I think Lee may be a little gunshy now because of what happened with the last coach. That hurts.

    I personally like the enthusiasm Vaughn showed. Some people are put off by it and consider it arrogance. To me you are only arrogant if you can't back it up. His resume to me seems to be much more impressive than Palko's, whose only claim to fame seems to be 20 years as a HC. Vaughn has experience in MULTIPLE facets of the sport.

    Again, I'm not saying Lee made a bad decision, I'm just saying that I think somebody overlooked Vaughn, and I hope that we get him.

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    Re: Andrew Palko named new Lee football coach

    Quote Originally Posted by stc4life View Post
    there's always some underlying things going on, who knows. fact is, palko got hired and i believe that satterfield will be an assistant. as far as vaughn, that dude has some issues that need to be resolved somewhere else. seems to be passionate about football though, lol. congrats coach palko
    Another loss for lee high. My son #21 has been soo aggrevated.. there is not any threat of a pass or any improvement in the offense. Is this what you get for 60 thou a year?? It is terrible for the kids. As for satterfield. It would be the same as it has been. He has input now but with no improvement. Will the next amazing coach please stand up:khan::khan:

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    Re: Andrew Palko named new Lee football coach

    For the past few games the offense has been the strong point of the team. There's not much threat of a pass (rather than "no") because its been a struggle for them much of the year when they try to, while the ground game has been the driving force. So in turn they go to a set designed for it. Either the passing game is there or it isn't, its whatever the talent is allowing for and currently its not. He didn't turn the ball over, make a mental mistake, or the likes either, that's been an issue as of late that has hurt. With that said Lee's a better team this year than last year. There's been improvement, not a great deal, but its a start and it doesn't happen overnight. Better hope another doesn't have to stand up though, if they want to head in the right direction stability is what they need the most now.

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